Thanks for you reply Ambucias but that is not the problem I don't think. This afternoon I swapped the video cards out and the card worked fine in the other laptop. I'm leaning more and more towards a motherboard problem unless someone has some other idea. I've had several laptops before and this is the first time that I've ran across this problem. The video card is working in the laptop because you can faintly see things happening in the lcd and I get video on an external monitor. WEIRD!